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Plan to keep Vanguard past-1960

In 1959 the Admiralty announced that HMS Vanguard would be scrapped as she was obsolete and too expensive to operate.If we want to keep Vanguard through the 1960s and perhaps beyond how do we address...

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When commissioned HMS Vanguard was described by some in the press as a state of the art battleship but armed with aunties old teeth. I have not read a particular article but it was stated that...

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How about Vanguard is put into reserve with extensive preservation put in place? Would could then bring back in service in the 1970s?

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Could do, even if only as a subtle means of getting a museum piece at the end of it. Vanguard next door to Warrior! Ian S.

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You'd need a big spot to put Vanguard. We forget that with the exception of HMS Hood, Vanguard was the longest warship ever to serve in the RN. At 814 feet long (vs. Audacious class carriers @ 804ft),...

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HMS Vanguard was only in reserve for about 4 years before the decision was made to scrap her the following year (1960). This was at a time when the USN retained all 10 Fast BBs in reserve, and the...

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In October 1955 the Soviet Union lost what effectively was its last battleship. The following year, France put Jean Bart in "reserve" and demoted Richelieu to an accommodation ship. Meanwhile, Italy...

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It really is a tragedy she wasn't sent to Portsmouth as a museum. Other than that, right decision.

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spiffingchap wrote:It really is a tragedy she wasn't sent to Portsmouth as a museum. Other than that, right decision.No offense to Vanguard, if I had to choose a single RN BB to save as a museum, it...

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I agree Vanguard wasn't the most historically significant British battleship. However: 1. she was the most powerful, representing in some way the culmination of the type 2. Warspite in particular was...

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Eric Grove goes into the cost of maintaining battleships in reserve and the time and money needed to recomission their main armament in "From Vanguard to Trident". The RN was under massive cost...

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NewGolconda wrote:Eric Grove goes into the cost of maintaining battleships in reserve and the time and money needed to recomission their main armament in "From Vanguard to Trident". The RN was under...

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Somebody already covered this. To sum it up; Step one, Scrap or cancel every other ship in the RN. Step two, ????

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jlyons97 wrote:NewGolconda wrote:Eric Grove goes into the cost of maintaining battleships in reserve and the time and money needed to recomission their main armament in "From Vanguard to Trident". The...

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 is that it would interesting to compare how the ships in reserve in the US were stored, with regards to maintenance, compared to how the RN stored its reserve fleet.' I went thru a decomm process on...

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A note on the inactive ship maintenance: I was on the decomm crew for the USS Acadia, which was going into Category B (90 day reactivation, the highest category for the USN) reserve. Along with what...

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When Vanguard was under construction, were there new technologies and systems that could have been incorporated in order to reduce the manpower and other operating costs?   This would enable Vanguard...

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Admiral Beez wrote: What if we stop construction in late 1943 before the engineering spaces are entirely covered over.   Then we develop low maintenance gas turbine engines, then in development (first...

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I suppose the best plan to keep Vanguard would be to find a credible use for her, and of course FUNDING. 1950s - For starters, send her to Korea in 1950 to join USS Iowa in bombardment work. Next,...

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Re: Plan to keep Vanguard past-1960

Admiral Beez wrote:I suppose the best plan to keep Vanguard would be to find a credible use for her, and of course FUNDING. If the UK thought it had the money for a ship they didn't think they'd need...

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